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Ecommerce Hot or Not with the ASOM Podcast

The ASOM panel debates customer ownership, convenience, creator economics, and preparing a DTC business for an exit. Jimmy Kim, John Roman, Amer Grozdanic, and Bryan MacDonald bring different operator perspectives.

Jimmy Kim · John Roman · Amer Grozdanic · Bryan MacDonaldSeptember 202528 MIN WATCH

Watch it. Put it to work.

ABOUT THIS SESSION

Treat channel ownership as a tradeoff.

The ASOM panel debates customer ownership, convenience, creator economics, and preparing a DTC business for an exit. Jimmy Kim, John Roman, Amer Grozdanic, and Bryan MacDonald bring different operator perspectives.

For ecommerce founders, marketers, and operators working on leadership & operations.

Speakers
Jimmy Kim
CEO, eCom Email Marketer
John Roman
CEO, BattlBox
Amer Grozdanic
CEO, Praella
Bryan MacDonald
Director of Ecommerce, Oma’s Pride
Recorded at
San Diego 2025 ↗
September 2025

Speaker roles and platform examples reflect the session’s original context. This is an archived conversation.

TAKE IT BACK TO YOUR DESK

Ideas to put to work.

  1. 01

    Treat channel ownership as a tradeoff

    Compare customer access, cash flow, and operational needs instead of choosing channels by slogan.

    Read this part · 04:04 ↓
  2. 02

    Reward the customers who recommend you

    Compare referral incentives with what you already spend to acquire a customer.

    Read this part · 11:56 ↓
  3. 03

    Build an exit-ready business before an exit

    Think about the operating quality and durability a future buyer will evaluate.

    Read this part · 19:03 ↓
READ THE SESSION

The edited transcript.

A condensed, edited reading version based on the YouTube captions and session chapters. Repetition and unclear audience audio have been removed; the discussion is paraphrased for clarity, rather than presented as a verbatim transcript. Timestamps refer to the original video.

Original recording on YouTube ↗
04:04

Treat channel ownership as a tradeoff

The discussion questions a simple owned-versus-rented distinction. Direct relationships are valuable, but a marketplace or other intermediary can also serve a commercial purpose. The panel considers situations such as moving inventory and reaching customers, emphasizing that the decision depends on the business rather than a universal rule.

11:56

Reward the customers who recommend you

The influencer and affiliate debate expands to existing customers. A brand may spend heavily to acquire a buyer while offering very little to the customer who recommends it. The panel challenges that imbalance and discusses the value of recognizing real advocacy with incentives that reflect its contribution.

19:03

Build an exit-ready business before an exit

The final discussion shifts from marketing tactics to the business behind them. An exit is connected to the quality of the operation and its revenue, rather than simply a moment when the founder decides to sell. The panel encourages founders to consider those questions while building, not only during a sale process.

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